Is “FBI Surveillance Van” in Your Wi-Fi List

If you are trying to connect to a Wi-Fi access point and you see “FBI Surveillance Van” in your SSID list, should you be worried? Is there an FBI van outside your door?


RAYMOND OGLESBY @RaymondOglesby2
July 28, 2022

If you are trying to connect to a Wi-Fi access point and you see “FBI Surveillance Van” in your SSID list, should you be worried? Is there an FBI van outside your door? Let’s explore this surprisingly common situation.

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It’s a Joke

If you see “FBI Surveillance Van,” “FBI Van,” “NSA Van,” or “Police Surveillance Van” on your list of Wi-Fi routers or access points, do not worry; It’s just someone nearby playing a practical joke. This joke originated in the early days of Wi-Fi—in the 2000s; because it ties into a common fear that someone might be lurking nearby and watching you. Also, in the early days of Wi-Fi, some people used scary-sounding SSID names as a deterrent to keep people from connecting to their open (not password protected) Wi-Fi access points.

How is this possible? A Wi-Fi network name is called an SSID (“Service Set Identifier”), and people can enter any SSID they want in their Wi-Fi router or hotspot’s settings. Since everyone nearby connecting to Wi-Fi can see these SSIDs (unless they are hidden), some people use them as a public opportunity to crack a joke.

There are other dangers in using this kind of joke in the context of people who might take it seriously. In fact, an SSID named “FBI_SURVEILLANCE_VAN” made the news in 2011 in relation to a teen that plotted a violent event. This inspired a long discussion on Techdirt and a post on Gawker about whether it’s wise to name your router “FBI Surveillance Van,” even if you think it’s funny.

Is it Really a Joke?

As seen above, we already know the “FBI Surveillance Van” SSID is a joke based on ample cultural evidence on the internet. But beyond that, is there another way to know it’s just a joke?

Yes, we can. The point of law enforcement surveillance is to keep an eye on a suspect, often in secret, using a tactic called covert surveillance. The reason they keep the surveillance secret is that it might alter the suspect’s behavior if the suspect knew they were being watched.

So if an FBI van were parked nearby secretly watching someone, would they publicly announce it with an obvious Wi-Fi SSID name? No. Also, if the purported FBI agents inside this hypothetical surveillance van needed internet access, would they get it through a Wi-Fi router in their van? No, they would likely use an alternative, secure means of doing so that did not rely on consumer technology; or simply use cellular internet. They do not need to provide Wi-Fi access to your neighborhood.

Then there’s the question of the FBI’s choice of surveillance vehicle itself. Does the FBI really conduct surveillance from a van like we see in films? Possibly, but this 2008 account from NPR describes surveillance taking place mostly from ordinary cars, and sometimes on foot. What little evidence we have shows that they did use at least one van in the 1980s, but that was before the modern digital communications era.

So while we can not definitively say that the FBI is not spying on you, we can say this: If they are, it has nothing to do with a name in your Wi-Fi list.

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3 thoughts on “Is “FBI Surveillance Van” in Your Wi-Fi List”

  1. Hey! Your post about the “FBI surveillance” thing coming up on WiFi finally put my mind at ease. Many thanx for that. Don’t know why I was worried… I’m not doing anything illegal (not really) and, being somewhat computer-literate, I should’ve figured that out myself. Guess it just caught me off guard.
    Another this: I think you need a good editor for your e-book. On the 2nd page of the free preview, there’s a badly worded sentence that makes no sense. I can’t figure it out. The best editor I know at present is me. I didn’t do it for a living (worked in a neuro research lab in NYC; BS in biology and biochem plus almost 2 years grad school) but I’ve been told more times than I can count that I’m “such a good writer”and I should “write a book” and so on. Not trying to brag. I’m just offering some assistance. If you want your book to get in print one day, you’re definitely going to need it edited. BTW, I’m impressed with your story. Very interesting background. I too grew up–in more ways than one–during the whole Viet Nam debacle. Lotta s@#t happened during that time. We were so naive. That’s something I think everyone lost, at least partially if not totally.
    Again, thanks for easing my mind. And think about the editing thing. I n the meantime, good luck with your e-book! Have a great day!!?
    LJR 🖖(Live long… blah, blah, blah…)


    1. Thanks for your comment. Yes I know there are several changes I need to make, basically I have to redo the whole ebook I the right format which is different than my original because the publish format has changed. It’s on my list of items to do.


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